Shedding Information and Genetics make for a perfect tab- as families need to be informed.
First off, when I say a dog is nonshedding, that is nonshedding like a poodle or HUMAN. And with my long blonde hair, my ‘nonshedding’ dogs are less shedding than me! But still keep in mind that geneticist will say there is no such thing as a nonshedding dog. Period. But we all know that dogs with the genes as described below as being nonshedding, will express no shedding of their hair until brushed... still with none to very little hair in the brush, JUST like humans.
No matter generation, shedding is all about the internal genetics. Things we cant see! I will try to explain here, what i know!
Q: Is it true that curly doodles are more hypoallergenic than a noncurly doodle?
There are 2 genes (and more that the genetic labs have not discovered yet) that correlate together to being the answer for nonshedding. The improper coat gene (also know as the furnishing gene) and the shed test. 1st off, if you have 2 parents that are both improper coat CLEAR... (both dogs have 2 of the furnishing gene) then all puppies will be nonshedding. Saying this, if your dog is improper coat clear (2 genes of the furnishings) then your dog is nonshedding. If your dog only has 1 improper coat gene (1 gene of furnishings) then to know if your dog is nonshedding, the shed test is important. If your dog does not carry a high shed gene... then its ok if there is only 1 improper coat gene... because your dog will NOT shed. If your dog does carry 1 high shed gene- then you can have mild-moderate shedding. If your dog has 2 high shed genes- then you definitely will have a shedder. (Note again, that if your dog is improper coat CLEAR- also known as 2 furnishing genes, then the shed test does not matter... 0-2 high shed genes)
I will try to explain with genetic information we test for on our breeding dogs:
Here are some examples...
Scarlett is Improper Coat CLEAR... (2 copies of the furnishing gene) so the shed test is not important for her... but she has 2 high shed genes! If she was not improper coat CLEAR, then she would be a shedder. Thank goodness for furnishings!
Kyia is the same as Georgia. Is Improper Coat Clear- (2 furnishing genes) but also 2 high shed genes. But she is completely nonshedding.
Beulah is Improper Coat Clear (2 furnishing genes), so again... another Nonshedders. But she only carriers 1 high shed gene.
Hazel: Now, this dog is different than that rest i have explained so far, as seen above. Hazel has 1 improper coat gene (1 gene of furnishings) which means she has the facial... beard, mustache and eyebrows... but the shed test is important!! She only carriers 1 high shed gene... BUT SHE SHEDS!! She only sheds mildly, but you will see dust bunnies in the corner of your rooms at your house, and very little hair on your clothes. (Nothing like a Golden Retriever!)
Gus: Here is one of our beautiful boys! His coat testing is a little different too. He also is like Hazel... for the Improper Coat Gene. He carries 1 of those genes (only has 1 furnishing gene) BUT he does NOT carry a high shed gene... which leaves his coat completely nonshedding and a velvet coat!
Georgia and LeRoy
Georgia and LeRoy both carry the same genes... (Exactly what we hope for in each dog!!) Improper Coat Clear (2 genes of Furnishings) and no high shed gene!
I could keep explaining dogs and their Improper Coat Genes and Shed test, as they both correlate together... but here is a written example of what any dog could have:
If your dog is improper coat CLEAR (2 genes of furnishings) then no need to test for the shed test. But if your dog has 1 improper coat gene (only 1 gene of the furnishings) then the shed test is important.
Here are the options your dog could have, depending on what the parents carry/test for.
Improper Coat Clear + 0 high shed = nonshedding
Improper Coat Clear + 1 high shed = nonshedding
Improper Coat Clear + 2 high shed = nonshedding
Improper Coat Carrier (1) + 0 high shed = nonshedding
Improper Coat Carrier (1) + 1 high shed = mild/moderate shedding
Improper Coat Carrier (1) + 2 high shed = moderate/severe shedder
Another thing i have not covered yet, is the ‘flat coated’ goldendoodle. This is where a goldendoodle has a slick face, whic is no furnishing genes...
Q: What if a dog has 2 Improper Coat Genes? (No furnishing genes)
A: These dogs will look like a golden retriever
Both of these dogs are goldendoodles- and both had parents that were nonshedding goldendoodles! So hey, 2 nonshedding, beautiful goldendoodles- bred together... can make this?! ABSOLUTELY! Both parents carried 1 Improper Coat Gene. So unless testing the parents, there are many breeders that are not aware of this... and can produce 25% of the litter, into puppies that look like this. Sadly... families that are looking for a normal ‘doodle look’, get this look.. without knowing.
Q: How do i know i will get a nonshedding puppy?
A: Hopefully your breeder will be honest with you, but many people think that F1b puppies have the higher chance of being less shedding and more hypoallergenic. This is a myth. As you have read above... all you need is an Improper Coat CLEAR dog...or a dog with 1 improper coat gene, and NO high shed gene.
Genetically, F1b litters will have 50% of the puppies with 1 improper coat gene. So unless your breeder test for shed test too... 1/2 of the litter has a chance of mildly shedding.
I personally would go with a Multi-Generational litter- with both parents being tested for the improper coat gene, and both parents being CLEAR (both parents having 2 furnishing genes).
I hope this helps explain the shedding aspect of the goldendoodles, and can help you find exactly what you are looking for! if you have any other questions, feel welcome to reach out!
As this is science and proven at Genetic Labs... Nature is Nature and the percentages can be a little pulled to one side or the other. There are lots of genetic testing we have not figured out yet...
So even as above... this is what is expected, but as written in my pet adoption contract:
The Breeder has made a reasonable judgment regarding the eventual adult coat of the puppy. However, as these are living beings, this judgment does not guarantee the eventual adult coat nor is there a guarantee of the eventual allergy-friendliness, degree of shedding or color of the coat at maturity.